It will be open source, end to end encrypted using Signal’s double ratchet encryption protocol, and he plans to make it easy for fediverse platforms to integrate it. The beta will release later this month.

He’s also the creator of https://fedidb.org btw

  • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    According to this post, Signal can federate, but chooses not to. In another post, it’s said that Matrix is based off Signal.

    So, one way to look at it announcement is “you will be able send Signal/Matrix messages from your fediverse instance of choice”, I believe

    • scytale@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      Huh. I wonder what they mean by “bad user UX”. I was expecting concerns about encryption or privacy, not UX. I already use Signal, so it would be a positive for me if they federate.

      • Machinist3359@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        To be a bit more precise, Signal is against federation from two angles:

        • Innovation: Signal values absolute control over the protocol so that they can more rapidly implement UX experiences scene in other modern messaging apps. It also eliminates malicious or outdated servers changing the UX between users. Ultimately folks won’t blame the servers, they’ll blame the app, and stop using it.

        • No rope for users: They seem pretty confident that the Apple-style of software and UX is right— if a user can change stuff enough to break it, they will. For secure messaging, they’d rather users have fewer choices to be sure it is secure.

    • Sam@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      “you will be able send Signal/Matrix messages from your fediverse instance of choice”

      While no details are clear, it’ll definitely not be this. Matrix has it’s own implementation which isn’t compatible with signal (megolm or something like that), and I really don’t think dansup will be making it matrix compatible. It’ll probably be its own thing.

      • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Oh, that’s a shame. It’s one of the bummers of instant messaging, everything seems to be incompatible with everything

    • Display Name@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yeah … I read it as well.

      This announcement does not mean that the services (signal, matrix, etc) will be integrated. At one point there’ll be a bridge for matrix. But like google, all of them need to implements MLS at one point. Maybe then they’ll be able to communicate

    • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Signal has been the basis of basically every private messenger since it’s inception. They may have since forked but they’re almost all based loosely on it’s concepts.