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The group’s president, Kevin D. Roberts, made the comments in an interview on “The War Room,” the Trump adviser Stephen K. Bannon’s show on the network Real America’s Voice.

Mr. Roberts was discussing the Supreme Court’s ruling on Monday that presidents have substantial immunity from prosecution for what they do in office, a ruling that upended the criminal case against former President Donald J. Trump for his attempts to overturn the 2020 election and that removes a potential barrier to the most radical elements of his second-term agenda if he is elected again.

“We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday, and in spite of all of the injustice — which of course friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve, know — we are going to prevail,” Mr. Roberts said, alluding to Mr. Bannon’s imprisonment.

He went on to say that “the radical left” was “apoplectic” because “our side is winning” and said, “And so I come full circle in this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

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    You can criticize Biden, and you would be right. But I’m asking the question again. What would you rather have?

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      If a Democracy dies because people weren’t willing to vote for Genocide, did a Democracy die?

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        I hear what you’re saying, but I’m pretty sure Trump will support genocide way more than Biden has.

        Yes, it’s absurd that this is what things have come to, but I’ll still be supporting the lesser of the two evils.

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          So genocide isn’t a dealbreaker for you. You will not scrub the blood off your hands; and you deserve to collapse with the country when it comes.

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          Are you sure you considered Linkerbaan’s position fully? If you are forced to choose evil, you don’t have a choice, you are forced.

          If you don’t think you’re being forced, then you’re choosing to choose evil.
          If you are being forced, then what does your choice matter?

          Trump doing some things in the future isn’t why your country and countrymen are onboard with genocide now and in the past.

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      I’d rather have every single person for whom genocide is a negotiable suffering. I do not wish for a better world for settler-amerikans.

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      What would you rather have?

      A non-fascist option. Abortion access, housing, not the world’s highest incarceration rate (which Jim Crow Joe is directly, but not solely, responsible for.) etc.

      You’re arguing from a false premise.

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        There’s a lot of things I’d rather have, but we’re not dealing in fantasy. What non-fascist options exist right now, or could reasonably be created before this year’s election?

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          You’re arguing from the premise that fascism is the only option and anything else is “fantasy”. Is that what you really believe?

          I was promised riots and unrest when Roe V Wade was overturned and there was crickets instead. What are you going to do in November after the democrats get Trump elected? Do before to prevent that current inevitability?

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            So if you expect there won’t be any protest and that people at just doing to fold over (like what happened in Italy or Germany) then what do you think is the best option???

            THERE IS NO THIRD OPTION.

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              “THERE IS NO THIRD OPTION” because you accept the options that you are given and try to convince others that they are acceptable options. They are not, stop deluding yourself.

              People are “just going to fold over” because you keep telling them to! Stop doing the fascist’s work, there are always other options but the fewer people who understand that means that more force per person is required to apply the needed pressure to make those options a reality.

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                Sorry buddy. But you live in la la land.

                Voting a third option will get Trump elected. The right is united behind him. If everyone else splits their vote, there doing to lose.

                I fully understand your concerns. But this is the reality and I know it sucks.

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                  I think you misunderstand that I’m talking exclusively about electoralism. It can be a useful tool, but it’s largely a scam.

                  I fully understand your concerns. But this is the reality and I know it sucks.

                  Can you please not just roll over and die. I’m begging for you to put up an ounce of resistance now before you need to put up a gallon later.