Six officers who were injured in the crash are suing Tesla despite the fact that the driver was allegedly impaired

New Footage Shows Tesla On Autopilot Crashing Into Police Car After Alerting Driver 150 Times::Six officers who were injured in the crash are suing Tesla despite the fact that the driver was allegedly impaired

    • Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      1415·
      1 year ago

      Tesla on autopilot/FSD is almost 4 times less likely to be involved in a crash than a human driven Tesla which even then is half as likely to end up in a accident compared to average car. You not liking Musk fortunelately doesn’t change these facts.

      In the 2nd quarter, we recorded one crash for every 4.41 million miles driven in which drivers were using Autopilot technology (Autosteer and active safety features). For drivers who were not using Autopilot technology (no Autosteer and active safety features), we recorded one crash for every 1.2 million miles driven. By comparison, NHTSA’s most recent data shows that in the United States there is an automobile crash every 484,000 miles.

      Source

      • tiny_electron@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        191·
        1 year ago

        There is a bias here in the numbers. Teslas are expensive and not everyone is buying them. The lower accident rate can be explained by the different demographic driving the vehicle rather than Teslas being better. For exemple, younger people might be more likely to cause accident because of different factors and they are also less likely to buy a Tesla because they are so expensive. I dont have the numbers for this, but we should all be careful with the claims of Tesla on safety when they compared themself to the global average.

        • Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          310·
          1 year ago

          Sure. There are always multiple factors in play. However I’d still be willing to bet that there’s nothing in Teslas that makes them inherently unsafe compared to other cars.

        • Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          512·
          1 year ago

          Perhaps. I’m sure you’ll provide me with the independent data you’re basing that “Teslas are not safe” claim on

            • narp@feddit.deEnglish
              53·
              1 year ago

              You made the first comment: “Teslas aren’t safe”, without providing proof.

              And now you’re calling someone a hypocrite because he asks for data of exactly what you claimed, while you’re redefining your first argument as “the contrary”.

              So, do you have proof that Tesla’s aren’t safe in comparison to other cars, or is it just your opinion?

                • narp@feddit.deEnglish
                  32·
                  1 year ago

                  But you can’t base a fact on one accident. Or even multiple. What if newspapers like to write especially about Tesla accidents to generate clicks?

                  Teslas seemingly have a lot of accidents, but without checking the statistics and comparing it to other manufacturers you wouldn’t really know if the perceived truth is a fact or not.

                  • masterairmagic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    11·
                    1 year ago

                    You’re right, but the automobile industy is too opaque to do this kind of study. Maybe the insurance companies have this data, but they.are not sharing it.

                    In the absence of such data we have to make do with what we have. What we are seeing are a lot of examples where Tesla’s are clearly doing irrational things and failing miserably. Youtube is not full of Mercedes cars failing miserably, eventhough there are a lot more Mercedes cars on the road.

            • Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              35·
              1 year ago

              Tesla model Y scored the highest possible score on IIHS crash test as well as 5 stars on Euro NCAP

              Their other models have similar results. I believe Model X is the safest SUV ever made.

              EDIT:

              More than just resulting in a 5-star rating, the data from NHTSA’s testing shows that Model X has the lowest probability of injury of any SUV it has ever tested," Tesla said in a statement. "In fact, of all the cars NHTSA has ever tested, Model X’s overall probability of injury was second only to Model S.

              Source

              Also might want to check this

              EDIT2: Imagine downvoting the guy providing hard evidence and upvoting the fanatic making baseless claims backed by nothing

      • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.worldEnglish
        42·
        1 year ago

        almost 4 times less likely to be involved in a crash than a human driven

        Not relevant at all here, when we are discussing occurences that seem so easily and obviously avoidable.

        (But it’s nice to see that the Fanboi team is awake now)