• NuPNuA@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    79
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    Unless you’re doing very specialist stuff, phone tech peaked a while back for the average user who’s only going to do some web browsing, social media, listen to some tunes or watchbsome funny videos. All the little incremental changes aren’t groundbreaking for that use case.

    Until foldables are both reliable and cheaper, phones have stagnated in terms of visably appealing features.

    • Ready! Player 31@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yep, I’ve just gotten a Pixel 7 Pro after 4 years with a Oneplus 8 Pro and really it’s a very incremental change. The camera on the P7P is incredible, just astounding, but on the Oneplus it was amazing. Otherwise they’re very much of a muchness.

      I’m thinking I’ll hang on to this one for another four years and hopefully by then foldable will be well tested and slightly cheaper.

      • jballs@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        What’s funny is that the camera on the Pixel isn’t a hardware thing. It’s mostly the post processing software that Google uses. So even that doesn’t require upgrading to a new phone that often, since the hardware isn’t as important as it once was.

    • nomadjoanne@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yup. Price per flop or whatever is cheaper than ever but after a certain point it doesnt matter. Also I don’t do specialist stuff on my phone. I do it on my desktop rig that can actually run arbitrary code I give it.

      I do have a few friends with money who just need that latest 50 megapixel phone camera or that 4k phone screen. But I don’t much care.

    • SeaOtter@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      24
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Not sure I agree that phone tech has peaked a couple years ago for the average user. What technology peaked years ago?

      Camera? Efficient processors? Display panels? Biometrics? Batteries? Cellular/Wi-Fi modems? Emergency satellite connectivity? I cannot think of a single technology (I am on iPhone 14 Pro) that is not at least marginally better than a year or two ago, and pretty meaningful improvement from ~5 years ago.

      The rate of technological improvement has slowed or plateaued, but there is a pretty reasonable argument that current flagship technologies are the “peak”, even for average user, if only incrementally. I agree that this plateau, coupled with upgrade cost, is making it a harder choice to decide to upgrade for average user.

      • nudl@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        1 year ago

        If anything if you just go with “got good enough for the average user years ago”, that works.

        I’m on a cat s62 pro with a 5 year old Snapdragon 660, and, while it shows its age, it functions just fine and will for the next few years.

      • stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Cameras are mostly software improvements these days. I argue displays have gotten worse with the drop from QHD to 1080p. Many think that the back fingerprint readers are better than the under screen or facial ones. 5G is mostly pointless. All while costs have increased greatly. A phone today doesn’t better meet my use cases than the phone I had 6 years ago and in many ways is worse (lower res screen, no headphone jack, inflated prices).

        • QuinceDaPence@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Many think that the back fingerprint readers are better than the under screen or facial ones

          They are. I could have my phone unlocked before even seeing the screen with the one on the back. The under screen one sometimes takes a couple tries and takes longer when it works. It’s cool tech, but the stand alone reader was better.

      • WagesOf@artemis.camp
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        You’re on apple, they certainly haven’t had a user noticeable change for the last 6 years.

        For me on android the last “must have” was variable refresh up to 120hz. I’ll probably even do a battery upgrade on my s21 when it can’t last a full day rather than hit an s25.

        The only blocker I’ve hit with is yuzu on android, which kind of just doesn’t work at all still.

        • SeaOtter@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Okay. Trying picking up a iPhone X (releases Sep 2017) vs iPhone 14 Pro and see the difference. There are a lot of quality of life improvements that make a noticeable difference in user experience.

          • 120hz
          • better battery life
          • 2x as fast charge
          • much brighter screen, always on if that interests you
          • triple camera sensors, with wide lens vs double, no wide lens
          • LiDAR to improve portrait photos
          • faster Face ID (used 100s of times a day)
          • satellite communication for emergencies
          • MagSafe charging/docking ability
          • 5G (really only find it useful for hotspots)

          I can confidently say everyone of these features has improved my user experience. None of them by their self are earth shattering, but taken as a whole, the constant iterative improvements have amounted to quite a lot.

          • Freeman@feddit.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            1 year ago

            As someone who just had an Galaxy S7 or something for 6.5 years this all sounds way overkill. I’d probably disable everything possible to get even more battery life out of it.

            If someone uses this phone for gaming or working or for documenting/photographing a trip or something, then its maybe worth it but for everyday use its just overkill imo

          • waz@feddit.uk
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Still using an iPhone X and the only things in your list that interest me are faster charging and LiDAR. But nothing to do with portraits; I want it for 3D scanning objects for CAD models for 3D printing. But I’d use it maybe a few times a year.

          • BlueÆther@no.lastname.nz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            as someone with an XR the only thing on that list maybe the camera and sat coms, but I have a DSLR and InReach device

        • itsJoelle@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          It’s interesting you claim “they certainly haven’t had a user noticeable change for the last six years”, and then cite a feature addition “on android” which was implemented on the iPhone 13.