Mozilla is dying. Asking their tiny and dwindling user base what they think Mozilla should invest in will not save them.
I don’t know if getting into AI will, but just following whatever absolutely tiny minority of their already tiny 2% of the web browser market share that bothers to fill out a survey won’t help them.
Putting random words in bold doesn’t mean you have a point.
Yeah they receive money for having a default search engine. In the past it was Yahoo and now it’s Google. I don’t see what your point is? What does it have to do with this article?
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Our survey data shows…
That probably sounded very clever in your head. You probably thought you “owned” me or something.
But I never said surveys were bad.
I said surveys of a tiny percentage of Firefox users, which in themselves are a tiny percentage of browser users, is useless. There’s nothing wrong with them commissioning wider surveys.
Do you think following what, say, a 20,000th of overall web browser users say they want is a winning strategy? I.e. to just continue what they’re doing now, commit wholeheartedly to the death spiral?
Mozilla needs to diversify. Because they’re dying. They’d already be dead if they followed what you seem to be suggesting (focus on the browser but also don’t accept money from Google!)
More bold text. I assure you that this text is very bold. Bold text.
CEO makes big pay cheque, quelle surprise. I’m shocked. Shocked I tell ya!
It’s standard. Do I think CEOs should be paid millions? Nah. But I’m not going to single out one tech CEO making $7m when there’s others out there making $250m
Again, Mozilla is a dying company. I’m not “presenting” it as anything. I’m staying a fact. I’m not making it up. If you think they’re a healthy company then I have a bridge to sell you.
We get it, you want Firefox to have no funding and die. I don’t. I don’t want a full Google monopoly.
A lower pay means the CEO will just move where he’ll get that salary. It’s very unfortunately a result of supply and demand, which pretty much everyone is forced to partake in, which includes mozilla
I didn’t gloss over it as acceptable, I said it’s standard and if anything low for the industry. It’s weird to single them out and shit on them. Not to mention completely irrelevant to this discussion.
No, you don’t want Mozilla to thrive, because you’re getting angry at them for wanting to diversify, which they need to do if they don’t want to die.
You want them to abandon their income. Guess what? Without that they’re dead. So what’s your solution?
This isn’t some fantasy land where the magic fairies can work on Firefox out of the goodness of their hearts while we all frolic in flowery fields. Firefox needs to pay their staff and you’re saying they need to cut off all funding and stop trying to find alternative revenue streams.
No shit. Everybody knows why Google funds Mozilla. This isn’t some revelation. It’s not relevant to the discussion of whether Mozilla should diversify or not.
Mozilla is dying. I’m not saying it for no reason. Their market share is generally stated to be between 1.5 and 2.5%, and more and more websites are breaking for them because they don’t follow web standards.
What Mozilla is doing now isn’t working. They need ways to generate income.
Your “just don’t take money from Google and don’t diversify” suggestion isn’t a good one. They would collapse almost immediately if they followed that advice.
Seriously, I don’t get how “just continue with just the browser but don’t take any money from others lol. I’m sure everyone will work on Firefox for free” is a valid stance. Web engines are too complex for small community development.
What is the appropriate response to an AI website builder? If it works well, that sounds pretty nice.
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I’m sorry but this is daft.
Mozilla is dying. Asking their tiny and dwindling user base what they think Mozilla should invest in will not save them.
I don’t know if getting into AI will, but just following whatever absolutely tiny minority of their already tiny 2% of the web browser market share that bothers to fill out a survey won’t help them.
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Putting random words in bold doesn’t mean you have a point.
Yeah they receive money for having a default search engine. In the past it was Yahoo and now it’s Google. I don’t see what your point is? What does it have to do with this article?
That probably sounded very clever in your head. You probably thought you “owned” me or something.
But I never said surveys were bad.
I said surveys of a tiny percentage of Firefox users, which in themselves are a tiny percentage of browser users, is useless. There’s nothing wrong with them commissioning wider surveys.
Do you think following what, say, a 20,000th of overall web browser users say they want is a winning strategy? I.e. to just continue what they’re doing now, commit wholeheartedly to the death spiral?
Mozilla needs to diversify. Because they’re dying. They’d already be dead if they followed what you seem to be suggesting (focus on the browser but also don’t accept money from Google!)
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More bold text. I assure you that this text is very bold. Bold text.
CEO makes big pay cheque, quelle surprise. I’m shocked. Shocked I tell ya!
It’s standard. Do I think CEOs should be paid millions? Nah. But I’m not going to single out one tech CEO making $7m when there’s others out there making $250m
Again, Mozilla is a dying company. I’m not “presenting” it as anything. I’m staying a fact. I’m not making it up. If you think they’re a healthy company then I have a bridge to sell you.
We get it, you want Firefox to have no funding and die. I don’t. I don’t want a full Google monopoly.
Bold text.
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A lower pay means the CEO will just move where he’ll get that salary. It’s very unfortunately a result of supply and demand, which pretty much everyone is forced to partake in, which includes mozilla
I didn’t gloss over it as acceptable, I said it’s standard and if anything low for the industry. It’s weird to single them out and shit on them. Not to mention completely irrelevant to this discussion.
No, you don’t want Mozilla to thrive, because you’re getting angry at them for wanting to diversify, which they need to do if they don’t want to die.
You want them to abandon their income. Guess what? Without that they’re dead. So what’s your solution?
This isn’t some fantasy land where the magic fairies can work on Firefox out of the goodness of their hearts while we all frolic in flowery fields. Firefox needs to pay their staff and you’re saying they need to cut off all funding and stop trying to find alternative revenue streams.
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Bold text.
No shit. Everybody knows why Google funds Mozilla. This isn’t some revelation. It’s not relevant to the discussion of whether Mozilla should diversify or not.
Mozilla is dying. I’m not saying it for no reason. Their market share is generally stated to be between 1.5 and 2.5%, and more and more websites are breaking for them because they don’t follow web standards.
What Mozilla is doing now isn’t working. They need ways to generate income.
Your “just don’t take money from Google and don’t diversify” suggestion isn’t a good one. They would collapse almost immediately if they followed that advice.
Seriously, I don’t get how “just continue with just the browser but don’t take any money from others lol. I’m sure everyone will work on Firefox for free” is a valid stance. Web engines are too complex for small community development.
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Everyone I know uses Firefox what are you on about? And now that Google Chrome blocks AD BLOCKERS, their market is going to get much bigger.
Lol
But Grand Nagus, he knows everyone!
Lol
So the answer this time is not building open source AI?
I’d love something like this.