The country will imprison or publicly flog 60 other suspected homosexuals.

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    The article in www.lgbtnation.com says:

    A Houthi court in Dhamar, Yemen, has sentenced nine people to death on homosexuality charges, according to Amnesty International.

    Checking Amnesty International:

    Yemen: Huthis must stop executions and release dozens facing LGBTI charges On 23 January, the criminal court in Dhamar in northern Yemen sentenced nine individuals to death – with seven sentenced to be executed by stoning, and two by crucifixion – while 23 others were handed prison sentences between six months and 10 years on charges including “homosexuality”, “spreading immorality”, and “immoral acts”. On 1 February, the court of first instance in Ibb in southern Yemen handed death sentences to 13 students and flogging to three others on charges of ‘spreading homosexuality’.

    But without any sources

    The article in www.lgbtnation.com says:

    “Additionally, a Houthi court in Ibb, Yemen, sentenced 13 students to death and three others to flogging for “spreading homosexuality,” according to Agence France-Presse (AFP).”

    When you follow the link it leads to L´OrienteToday, and there are no sources in this web page

    Looked in AFP site: NOTHING

    The article in www.lgbtnation.com puts an image, if you read the caption it says:

    Image released by ISIS showing citizens of Kirkuk stoning the lifeless body of a man executed for being gay.

    This image is from 2016 (seearched with TinEye)

    Kirkuk is in Irak, and ISIS is known for doing this things, but it is not related to the “new”. Where are Yemen images?

    Given that the Houtis are kicking the ass of USA and UK´s Navy these “news” are too convenient. Saudi Arab and UAE used to do this and no news about it, suddenly this “news” about Yemen.

    I do not buy it.

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      DEHUMANIZE THE ENEMY

      DEHUMANIZE THE ENEMY

      DEHUMANIZE THE ENEMY

      DEHUMANIZE THE ENEMY

      DEHUMANIZE THE ENEMY

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    Oh suddenly we hear about this what a coincidence. I’m incredibly queer and I do not think genocide is ever justified nor is retaliation to economically hindering genocide.

    Did you know if you genocide a population, the queer people in that population die horrifically too?

    Essentially, fuck all you commenters, don’t fucking use our identity to justify your evil when the reality is that you feel bad for going on gay bashing runs in the 90s. You weren’t a good person then and you aren’t a good person now that you diverted your hatred.

    Every queer i know online and offline stands with Palestine. No more fucking death. No more videos of kids being executed to end up on my feed.

    Edit: did I fucking say I supported the Houthis blindly? The US had all this time to bomb the Houthis (which would also be fucking awful) but when economical functions with Israel are interrupted suddenly it’s justifiable to just make a bunch of fucking casualties. The anger at the US for bombing Yemen is bipartisan within yemen. How about entities in positions of power just stop fucking bombing people for being morally imperfect? Oh but no of course if they aren’t white then their value is less( you think unconsciously). You are absorbed by propaganda and ideology and any assumptions that you think equally should seriously be reconsidered. You would do diplomacy with a an antsy cop with a gun, why don’t you do diplomacy with someone who isn’t white, oh it’s because propaganda has dehumanised them. Fucking idiots thinking they need to advocate death like it’s a fucking chess game, your as bad as tankies.

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      seconding as a trans person. everyone i know supports palestine to the hilt. you cannot change the situation on the ground for lgbt people in yemen or palestine with war and bombs.

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      Hey, as one of those people who used slurs in the past, I’m sorry. I wasn’t a good person, I followed the crowd. I’m trying hard to be a better person. You don’t have to accept me or my apology. I just want to put it out there. Sorry you and your community was hurt by people like me.

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      The Houthis have NOTHING TO DO WITH PALESTINE. What are you guys on? They are randomly disrupting trade routes in the red sea for political clout and nothing more. Just because they claim it’s to help their Palestinian allies does not give them any agency. That would be like Spain randomly attacking fleets in the Mediterranean to support Ukraine.

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      So, you get to decide why people find this abhorrent. And then because of the strawman you handed all these people you then clutch your pearls and call them impure.

      But I’m sure the prosecuted people sentenced to an objectively evil form of punishment will be glad you are able to see past that because the purpetrators of these evil deeds support a cause you think is more valuable than their lives.

      With friends like you…

      But you go ahead, support your cause, alienate people because they are not pure enough. But don’t wonder why the silent majority stays silent. They fear being targeted for not being pure enough for the likes of you and singled out for a struggle session.

      Edit, the reason for the punishment is bad enough, the form of punishment combined with the reason causes me to root for more action against the Houthi’s.

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    This is very unfortunate.

    But surely this is because Arabs are inherently savage and backwards, and has nothing to do with all the wars and bombs that created the worse humanitarian crisis of the century. (sarcasm)

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      That’s some serious triple summersault mental gymnastics to defend the Houthis. Might as well go back and start with the cooling of the earth 4 billion years ago if you really want to know the culprit.

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    It’s the Houthis in Yemen, not “Yemen”.

    Grazia Careccia, Amnesty International’s Middle East and North Africa Deputy Director, called the planned executions “gruesome public spectacles” designed to spread fear among LGBTQ+ people and the Yemeni population at large.

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      Yet when Biden bombs the Houthis, it’s “violation of international law” because the Houthis are the “de facto government of Yemen”. Or at least that was the consensus on Lemmy a couple months back.

      Like, I don’t really care. Fuck the Houthis and fuck Israel. But it’s interesting how the Lemmy hivemind picks and chooses who is “the legitimate Yemeni government” based on their personal values.

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      You know who’s the real monster? USA, because they were committing a genocide in Yemen for few years. Bet you missed that one for some neoliberal reason.

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        Yes, the US was supplying weapons (via Saudi Arabia) to the government of Yemen that was fighting these fucking monsters.

        But relax, that war is in a ceasefire now, so everything is fine now, right?

        The world may not be the black and white simple thing you’ve been led to believe. Most of the time, if you do something, bad things will happen. If you do nothing, bad things will happen. Most of the time any course of action or inaction will have bad results. There are evil people in the world, and the US is not actually the source of all evil in the world. People have been coming up with reasons to do evil shit long before the US existed.

        If the US didn’t supply arms to the Yemeni government would things have turned out better? There’s no way to know that. The only thing that’s certain is the Houthis are horrible monsters.

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          But relax, that war is in a ceasefire now, so everything is fine now, right?

          Let me bomb your country for a few years back to Stone Age, and ceasefire. Everything will be fine!

          People have been coming up with reasons to do evil shit long before the US existed.

          No, nobody in human history has been as evil as USA and INGSOC (English Fascism) Anglo-Saxon European ideology. Even Hitler’s Germany was directly inspired by racial segregation policies in USA. Not to forget, Nelson Mandela was on US terrorist list until 2008.

          If the US didn’t supply arms to the Yemeni government would things have turned out better? There’s no way to know that.

          Your brain is fucked up.

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      This is like saying “The communist party in china” or “the rebels in the British colonies”. Like, at this point it’s a fairly decided who is in charge of Yemen, and it’s just a matter of waiting for the rest of the world to recognize the facts on the ground.

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    Barbarians.

    If you want to know why I’m an atheist.

    What kind of entity has 3 different sects of people who all believe this is what it wants?

    Religion is a cancer.

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    “Remember everyone we have to respect their beliefs…”

    Religious freedom can eat my asshole. Abolish it all, especially Abrahamic religions.

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      It’s pretty easy to be a member of an Abrahamic religion and go your entire life without killing anyone.

      Don’t blame the structure for the monsters that abuse it.

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        You mean the structure that’s completely monster-made?

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        The only thing that stops them is secular law and punishment. They say this all the time. And while it may be possible to do so it is also improbable that they stop others who do. We have a wide variety of examples of this.

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    The Wahabbi interpretation of Sharia law in Saudi Arabia maintains that acts of homosexuality should be disciplined in the same way as adultery - with death by stoning. Homosexuality or nonconformant gender expression can also be punished by corporal punishment, flogging, imprisonment or forced ‘conversion’ therapy.

    This isn’t unusual in the Middle East. There’s a number of reasons for this (mostly based on colonialism and imperialism by more powerful players), but this is unfortunately the status quo.

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      Are you saying the medieval punishments, state actors dole out in the middle-east are somehow the west’s fault?

      Your whole post reads as “it is, what it is” and I find it repugnant.

      I would submit there is a mountain of stuff we should not find acceptable, condemn and fight against (figuratively and literally) and the importance of all these subjects is not all the same. It’s probably more pyramid shaped. With genocide at the top, closely followed by things like crucifixion and other (state/state sanctioned on individual) corporal punishments.

      This whole punishment has nothing to do with the wider middle east conflict, and as human beings we should damn we’ll have a strong opinion on the matter.

      And the fact that Houthi’s claim to help the Palestinians by attacking some shipping is a lie some people are too eager to believe. They are terrorists, religious zealots and murderers. The fact they somehow seem to garner sympathy from willfull idiots only strengthens their ability to sucker more feebleminded people into their recruitment funnel to commit more atrocities in the name of their beliefs.

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      Are you saying there was no stoning of gay people before the Brits arrived? What the hell does “colonialism” have to do with Sharia law that was implement over 600 years ago? I swear “colonialism” is the new popular word of the day on my bingo card.

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    Well there you have it… there’s no way it will be possible to bomb them (the Houthi’s) back to the stone Age.