• IbnLemmy@feddit.uk
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    Israel player Dor Saar said on Wednesday that the Ireland team is “quite anti-Semitic”.

    Well I never…

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      Imagine being an Israeli Jew and not know what those two words mean… It’s like someone thinking everyone in America is white, and that white and American mean the same thing.

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      That just means Israeli players and citizens are fully complicit in the genocide of Palestinians. They are NOT detached from their subhuman fascist government.

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    They were called anti-Semitic because they wouldn’t shake hands, or they wouldn’t shake hands because they were called anti-Semitic? The article isn’t terribly clear on the order of events here.

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      “It’s known that they are quite antisemitic and it’s no secret, and maybe that’s why a strong game is expected”

      That’s the full quote from the israeli player from before the game.

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        Ah okay, that makes some more sense. I wouldn’t want to shake hands with folks who slung slurs at me out of nowhere either! It begs the question as to why they called them anti-Semetic in the first place.

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          Largely because of ireland’s history of being brutalized in their own home, they have consistently had the strongest support for the palestinian cause in all of europe. The israeli player was almost certainly mischaracterising support for palestinians as antisemitism.

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          To be clear here, “Anti-semetic” is the slur, not whatever imagines slight Israeli players accused Ireland of.

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            Yeah, exactly. Whipping out a charge of anti-Semitism against folks who just don’t happen to agree with how your government is handling their business is absolutely a slur.

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      To be fair, being called anti-semitic by a bunch of hate filled genocidal Nazis isn’t really the worst thing in the world. It’s kind of like Samuel Little calling somebody a misogynistic bully.

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        To be even more fair, it’s culture washing as the Palestinians are a semitic people, and the Israeli player called the Irish players anti-Semitic because of their well known support of the Palestinian people.

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    I want to high five each one of these ladies.

    It’s too bad they’re such anti-semites. /s

    Fuck Israel.

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    There was a controversy over would they boycott the game or not.

    The guy who manages women’s basketball in the coutnry said a boycott would get us fined €180,000, make us basketball pariahs, and accomplish nothing. I don’t particularly take a side on that but I put on the game for a minute and we were getting thumped.

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    I’m all for protesting the government and their actions. But I am a bit torn on this.

    It’s like being a US tourist while Trump is in office and being denied everything because you are associated with you government.

    I hate it too. But I am not my government.

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      They refused to shake hands because one of the israeli players called them all antisemites in the pre game interviews.

      Ireland has a long history of supporting the palestinian cause - consistently the highest in europe - which is what the player was intentionally mischaracterising as antisemitism.

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        That is still kind of the same thing, they blame the whole team for the comments of one player.

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          Sorry, let me get the full quote and some more context:

          In an interview published on Tuesday by the Israeli Basketball Association, Saar addressed the upcoming match with Ireland. “It’s known that they are quite antisemitic and it’s no secret, and maybe that’s why a strong game is expected,” she said. “We talk about it among ourselves. We know they don’t love us and we will leave everything on the field always and in this game especially.”

          An official quote at a formal press interview that implicates the entire team.

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            Have the been antisemetic? If I was on a team, I would not be expected to be blamed for what my teammates had to say.

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              Have the been antisemetic?

              See my comment you originally replied to.

              what my teammates

              If an official representative of the team slags off the other side without reason before the game, and says the entire team thinks this, with no apology or attempt to clarify that that person was wrong and only speaking for themselves, that’s shitty behavior from the entire team.

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      National sports teams represent their countries.

      Sports boycotts are a useful way of alerting a country’s citizens that we are upset by the actions of the government they have chosen to represent them.

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      These people are choosing to represent their country, not just going about their private business.

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      It’s one way to push governments to change, especially in a representative democracy. It’s why businesses are pulling their operations from Russia (and to a much lesser extent Israel).

      Edit: Typo.

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        • NATO state businesses

        McDonalds, Starbucks and Apple do not matter as much as you think. Russia is stronger without them.

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      You don’t go around calling people out for it though. You agree with them that Trump is a jerk and that you didn’t want him to become a president. This is different. The Israeli team called the Irish team antisemitic because they don’t like what Israel is doing. The truth though is that it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the genocide that Israel is inflicting on Palestine

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      It might suck, but yeah we kinda deserved to be excluded from the world stage for allowing trump to be president. Anyone that is willing to represent Israel/Russia/Saudi Arabia right now is kinda a piece of shit.

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        Russia is far, far superior to any of these, with USA and Israel being at the bottom of barrel. No need to slip in that Democrat anti-Russian propaganda, we know you love Genocide Joe/Hillary/Pelosi types.

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          I have no clue what you’re talking about.

          Russia and Israel are the exact same as far as I’m concerned. They’re both state sponsors of terrorism, and their entire government should be replaced with their heads being executed for war crimes.

          Saudi Arabia is not just a state sponsor of terrorism, but a full blown terrorist state.

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            We will start with USA government being executed and replaced first. No other government will need to be touched. And Russia is an anti-terrorist state, not what you claim it to be.

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      Both Israel and the US have representative democracies. Views of the government are the views of the people.

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        But with just some VERY MINOR tweaks to the system, the “views of the people” would be very different. In the US, the system is OPENLY engineered to preserve existing power structures, in ways that have accumulated over the decades (Jerrymandering, Electoral College and First Past The Post all add up…)