• Mr_Blott@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Oh I’m so fucking sorry this manufacturer gave you clear instructions on how to recycle properly

    Your life must be truly horrible 😂

    • twack@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Nah, get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

      Ignoring the fact that hardly any plastic is actually recyclable in the first place, your argument is that conscious consumers should accept additional responsibilities on the off chance that it MIGHT actually get recycled?

      We figured out how to print on basically any surface a long time ago. How about we hold companies to a standard of responsible packaging, instead of yet again passing the buck to the end user.

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        5 months ago

        this user probably thinks it’s too hard to collapse a cereal box before sending it to recycling

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            5 months ago

            that is 1 of the 2 infuriating parts. always remember it is possible to hold two truths at once, that a) consumers can take some part in environmental responsibility and b) that we should also hold corporations accountable

  • Squizzy@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    This brand is all cartons where I am, more efficient and environmentallly friendly.

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      5 months ago

      Cartons have plastic too, yeah? Cause plain cardboard isn’t staying mess free for long if you fill it with milk. That said, it’s probably less plastic, though this is also less plastic than just making the whole jug non-recyclable. Why they don’t just make the label recyclable too is beyond me.

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        5 months ago

        The problem is plastic is great for food safety. The way it makes air and water-tight seals, that can easily be broken, is hard to replicate. If cans could open, on their own, the way sealed plastic bottles do, then we could have easier recycling via metal containers. But the self-open cans make sharp edges and nobody’s invented a way around that yet.

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            5 months ago

            There are so many other plastic use cases in food storage and transport. Like sure, we can bring back milk men but what about everything else?

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                  5 months ago

                  Good one! Industry and consumption problem. Also I assume by candy bars you are referring to chocolate bars.

                  Industry: could offer chocolate bars in bulk packed sealed boxes or bags with waxy cardboard or paper packaging. This already exists for many independent products. However vendors and producers want to maximize profit on individual wrapped item, preying on weak wills around the cashiers.

                  Consumption: chocolate bars are bad for you. I’d tax sweets and sugary beverages a similar way we tax tobacco, cannabis and alcohol, so that it can give back to society’s increased healthcare costs and dissuade excess consumption via increased prices. Currently producers like Mars, Mondelez and Hershey’s get away scott free for poisoning the populace.

  • Zacryon@feddit.de
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    5 months ago

    You need to separate most materials in order to recycle them. The plastic of a lid is different from that of a bottle which are both different from a wrapping. Separating materials is key to successful recycling. A lot of times stuff can’t get recyled because people don’t separate it before throwing it away.

    Or you could just use, you know, reusable materials.

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      5 months ago

      Separation requirements vary. In the UK, plastic bottle caps are generally tethered to the bottle now to prevent people from separating them.

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        5 months ago

        Why?! I dont get it. What kind of psychopath doesn’t put the cap back on when empty. Who opens a bottle, throws the cap away, and chugs away?! How is this a problem? I’m just so baffled this was/is a problem.

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          5 months ago

          Uh, I was replying to someone who said it’s essential to separate lids from their bottles. It’s not psychopaths who are doing this — it’s people who think it’s the right thing to do.

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            5 months ago

            Sorry, I missed that. That’s actually really interesting and the only good answer I’ve seen so far; people doing harm thinking they are doing good. Still hate it though… The cap gets in the way of drinking.

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          5 months ago

          When I squash a (gallon) jug it sometimes warps the opening so that the cap doesn’t fit anymore.

          • WildPalmTree@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            True enough. Didn’t think of it as I’m used to a recycling system where you don’t crush them. In fact, if you did, you wouldn’t get your deposit back.

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          5 months ago

          Could simply be to keep the material together. Makes sorting easier.

          • WildPalmTree@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            I understand that’s the reason. My point it, I’m surprised and amazing this doesn’t happen automatically already. I’ve never not put the cork back on a bottle when it was empty.

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            5 months ago

            But it’s one of the few benefits of plastic bottles; if I don’t finish it, I can re-seal it. It’s not about spilling, it’s about preserving.

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              5 months ago

              I guess personally if I’m leaving and I’m not done with it I just chug it quick and throw it away

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    5 months ago

    Nearly all containers (glass or plastic) need to have their label removed to recycle properly. And you must rinse them out, too.

    Some can be recycled with the label on, but only if the plastic used is the type that can be recycled. Confusing and frustrating, yes.

    The crappy thing is that some labels really don’t come off easily because they’ve been glued in place… those are awful to recycle because it requires quite a bit of extra effort, soaking, adhesive remover, etc… 😂

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      5 months ago

      And you must rinse them out, too.

      This step right here has to end. Recycling facilities should have cycling filtered graywater loops to do the rinsing. Using clean drinking water to rinse out containers is an absolute waste.

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    5 months ago

    Imagine the massive inconvenience of separating your plastics so that your recycling facility can actually recycle more plastic waste instead of if ending up in a landfill 🤦

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      5 months ago

      Imagine the massive inconvenience of having to separate plastics to recycle when you literally work at a plastic recycling plan.

      • Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world
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        It’s not that the plastic isn’t recyclable it’s that you cant mix plastics and recycle them. So if there is a doubt at all what a plastic is then it’s thrown away or if it can’t be separated from other materials or contaminated with oil or something.